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Re: Project Chrysler

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:57 pm
by Rapier
Thanks Howard, am replacing the service parts at the moment so not sure what I need. Is it the magneto ignition 45hp? Didn't you have an external coil version on your Glastron?

Re: Project Chrysler

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:01 pm
by Rapier
Dropped the gearbox - 5mins never done one quicker, no sign of salt water use. Pump housing fine, new impeller on order.

Re: Project Chrysler

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:26 pm
by Howstar
Yes it had a cdi unit on .I have other bits for chrysler and some manuals let me know what you need that just getting the way of my shed

Re: Project Chrysler

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:19 pm
by Rapier
Howstar wrote:Yes it had a cdi unit on .I have other bits for chrysler and some manuals let me know what you need that just getting the way of my shed
None of mine are CDI - the 45hp has OMC style underflywheel coils, points etc, the 55hp is a 12V battery ignition with alternator - think they're called the Alternator Electric models - coils where the CDI box is. I'd heard the CDI motors were troublesome?

I might need some parts, so will come back to you :thumbsup:

Re: Project Chrysler

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:30 pm
by Rapier
Spent the day fitting new condensers, setting points, etc. Still no spark, so ran a few circuit tests (great factory manual). Everything checked out bar the ignition to the coils (coil prices are $120 a pop in the US) - after much head scratching (without calling friends!). I deduced that the ignition switch I'd used for the 45hp was at fault and it turns out it needs to be wired differently for each model :o .

New plugs coming (not Champion), fuel pump diaphram, impeller and some gearbox seals / drain & fill washers.

Re: Project Chrysler

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:56 am
by Howstar
[quote ]Electric models - coils where the CDI box is. I'd heard the CDI motors were troublesome?
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Just tell me about ir, when it ran it ran well , but when it did not that was it, just one thing after another the reads valves was last thing to go that was the last straw

Re: Project Chrysler

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:25 am
by Rapier
Howstar wrote:Just tell me about ir, when it ran it ran well , but when it did not that was it, just one thing after another the reads valves was last thing to go that was the last straw
American marine told me the Prestolite ignition systems were the worst - warranty returns were high. What happened to the reeds - did it ingest one? They're robust, if an odd design when we're all used to 'conventional' Merc and OMC versions.

Was it you that did the car coil and ballast resistor modification?

Re: Project Chrysler

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:27 pm
by Howstar
The reeds lost there springiness and did not seal and on compression air wood push back though the carb some had done a repair to housing use some kind of liquid metal many years before I had it , called at outboard repair place in Manchester he wanted £80 for two old ones reed valves
I had just spent loads of money on it before and it just got to much.It did run well on Loch Lomond a few times but just got to much hassle

How doing with ignition switch I think you have to put a link in the switch to bye pass the pull cord cut out or you bypass the switch and connect everything to a battery just see if you get a spark at the plugs


Have fun

Sorry i have not been to many events this year I had spent a lot money on my car and other things this year so I should O:K next year to have some fun :wot:

Re: Project Chrysler

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:25 pm
by Rapier
Howard, Managed to sort out the ignition switch - the magneto and battery wiring is different. I would have gone spare finding the fault, but for the tests in the manual which ultimately showed no juice to the coils. Am looking for a regulator to match the non CD coil setup. The pics above show a home made version that has been cooked I think - is bubbly on its underside.

Re: Project Chrysler

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:31 pm
by Rapier
Bought service items, new 10 vane impeller £35 with VAT..(I think this was a Quicksilver upgrade, for Force motors), fuel pump diaphragm £13, and fill / drain washers £2 (these are typically re-used and cause water ingress, if not the right type).

The used impeller is still soft and pliable, but is slightly worn and is torn on one vane and is also about to delaminate from / spin on the hub. The brass versions are sometimes a tighter fit, so can need filing to fit.