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Alby Continental steering gear questions.

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:35 pm
by Little Red
1st posting from Newbie to the Forum.
After many hours searching previous posts and the archives I've a couple of questions regarding steering column and rudder.
1-column.
I'm at a loss to figure out how the lockstops actually work. I've located some good pictures of stripped column but
no explanation. My main problem being some sort of resistance when approaching full lock.(no cable fitted).Rocking the steering
1/2 turn <-> the resistance disappears until approaching the opposite full lock. Is this normal?
Is there a recommended figure for the number of coils of cable on the column 'spool'

2-rudder.
Again no cable fitted. I couldn't understand why the rudder was self centring and then found there was a long piece
of rubber tube fitted over the full length of the rudder shaft; being clamped to the bottom 'trunnion' and then at the top of the
shaft just under the top bearing. The bottom trunnion is loose in the hull ,possibly caused by the resistance of the tube?
Again, is this normal?
Looking forward to your thoughts,
BoB.

Re: Alby Continental steering gear questions.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:32 am
by Rapier
Did you get sorted on this one? If not I'll speak to a non forum member with an early continental who might be able to help you out.

Re: Alby Continental steering gear questions.

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:34 pm
by Little Red
Thanks Rapier,
no, haven't made any progress yet. I do have access to an A series
and a couple of ali Deltas, to make some comparisons, but the owner is abroad at
the moment. I'll post any findings when I can.
Regards,
Bob.

Re: Alby Continental steering gear questions.

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:07 am
by Rapier
PM sent

Re: Alby Continental steering gear questions.

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:14 pm
by Mirak
Re: 2 - Rudder:


If this is anything like the Simmonds setup...

The bottom rudder bearing should be fixed to the hull. a) to stop it flopping about and b) more importantly, to stop the water coming in.

The rubber tube should be clamped to the bottom and top bearings and it's sole purpose (other than annoy you when it perishes) is to form a water tight tube. There will be water in the tube the whole time the boat is afloat, but it won't come into the boat because the top is higher than the waterline.

(on my Simmonds I made an aluminium rudder tube pushed over the bottom bearing with a bit of sealant.)

The rudder should be a good running fit in both top and bottom bearings. I suspect yours is seized in the top bearing and the whole lot is twisting the rubber tube.
Free up the top bearing and your problem should be cured. A bit of anti-seize stuff or WD40 will serve to loosen it up.

Although a self-centering rudder is quite a good idea, but best not implemented in this fashion :-)


As to problem 1, I've no idea other than to strip it all down; oil all the moving bits and then reassemble bit by bit until you hit the problem again.

S

Re: Alby Continental steering gear questions.

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:32 pm
by Little Red
Thanks Mirak for your input. The system seems a little different to yours in that the hose has no alternative but to twist.
But a simple modification will be made when the snow clears!
Cheers, Bob.